Marc Berman
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first heard Jul 2026
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We can't just...
do some of these little experiments that people might think about.
Well, just put people in MRI scanners, show them nature pictures or urban pictures, look at the differences and bada bing, bada boom, that's gonna tell us why nature's restorative.
It's gonna be more complicated than that.
Yeah, so it's a great question, something we're really thinking a lot about.
I'll back up just a little bit just to say, too, that we've also done studies where you can show people just pictures of nature or listen to nature sounds versus urban sounds or watch nature videos versus urban videos and still get some of these similar changes and backwards to just band performance.
which suggests to us that it's something about the perceptual features of nature that might be producing these benefits.
So then that kind of gets away from it just being leisure time per se.
If you're sitting in a laboratory just looking at nature images and urban images, I guess if you're looking at the nature images, maybe you're thinking about your vacation more often, but we think that's less likely and more that there's something about the stimulation there.
I will go back to something you said originally about
being careful about replication, these effects with the pictures and the sounds and the videos are not as strong.
These effects are not as strong as going into real nature.
And, you know, sometimes you get the effects and sometimes you don't.
It's not quite as robust.
But the fact that you can get it suggests that there is something about the perceptual qualities of nature that are producing these effects.
Okay, so what are those perceptual features?
We started to become really, really interested in ideas of information and compression.
So I did have a student, Omid Cardan, and we used to, he was actually an electrical engineer.
And we would talk a little bit about nature images and urban images.
And we wondered, you know, maybe nature images get compressed down into fewer bits than urban images, because there is a lot of repeated structure in a natural image compared to an urban image.
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