Marc Berman

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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas · 360 | Marc Berman on the Science of Touching Grass · 6 Jul 2026 podcast

I mean, they're not so expensive, but they're not inexpensive.

So I think we need, as a field, we need to really...

Quantify these things more in in ways that I think a policymaker could really take them and do something with it Rogers study in the hospital did have Impact people do design hospitals.

I think trying to incorporate more nature into into hospitals or around hospitals But I would say

In a large part, this is something we're fighting against, that people view nature as an amenity and not a necessity.

So they say, oh, that's nice if we had enough money or, you know, oh, that's for rich people.

You know, we don't all need to have this.

And I think we're trying to make the argument that actually, no, this is kind of a necessity that maybe to achieve wealth.

human flourishing to be our best selves, we need to incorporate more of these natural elements into our lives.

But how much, what kind, I think these are still issues that we need to really, really work through and quantify.

I think it's sort of a staircase.

So I would say like nothing beats the real nature.

And as I said before, when we do the studies with the simulations of nature, the pictures and the sounds, you can get effects, but they're not as strong as the real thing.

Windows or views to nature can be good, but it's not quite as good as being out in real nature.

Pictures of nature can work.

Even having fake plants, people have found that can be beneficial.

maybe designing with the textures of nature.

So as I said, you know, mimicking patterns of nature without there actually being nature could have benefits too.

So it's like, if you can't get out into real nature, can you look at real nature?

And if you can't look at real nature, can you bring some real nature inside?

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