Marc Elias
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first heard Apr 2026
last heard 7 Jul
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Right, but I keep coming back to this, which is, like, if they can get—and I don't know whether they had tapes or just good notes or whatever—
But from the Situation Room, I just asked myself, like, why is it that when it comes to covering the court, there never seems to be that kind of sourcing?
Or there has not been for many, many decades.
Correct.
And I think the answer is, I think the answer is because the media and lawyers and society as a whole, until very recently-
did not agree with something you just said.
And in fact, even when you said it, I kind of like, even I for a moment, like sort of like, huh, you said that you don't think the court cares about how it looks other than maybe the chief justice occasionally.
And like, you're absolutely right, by the way, Jesse.
Like, it's not like you're wrong.
It's just like, the problem is there are too many people like me
You know, in my reaction here, you know, and too many people, lawyers, observers, they treat the court as different.
Like they think, oh, well, of course they care about the legitimacy of the institution the way Mike Johnson doesn't.
Of course they care about the appearances of the court in the way that, you know, Donald Trump doesn't.
And like, I think your original reaction is right, which is like, no, they're in the, what you call the YOLO phase.
Yeah.
Look, I think we need court reform in a number of different directions.
First and foremost, we need ethics reform.
Like, to this day, I am baffled by the idea that, you know, if I try to go to dinner with a member of Congress and I pay, I can't.
But, you know, people can, like, give whatever they want seemingly to members of the court, which—
makes no sense.
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