Marc Elias
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622 appearances
2 recordings
1 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 7 Jul
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Right.
And so that's why these two things.
Correct.
Right.
Like it all of a sudden allows challenges based on citizenship that where you're just presenting a birth certificate is now those on birth certificates don't prove citizenship.
Right.
The fact that you were born in the United States and a hospital filled out a form doesn't mean anything.
And, you know, if you don't believe that that is where this is going, just how did we come to know Donald Trump as a political figure?
Like, obviously, you and I are from New York.
We understood him to be sort of a grotesque character of the city in the 80s and the 90s.
But how did we come to understand him as a political figure?
It was saying when he said that Barack Obama was not born in the United States.
And how did...
What happened when Barack Obama produced his birth certificate?
What happened when the state of Hawaii said this is his birth certificate?
Donald Trump said it's not real, right?
So you have to understand that in the MAGA movement for Donald Trump and his supporters,
compromising and undermining birth certificates as proof of citizenship is part of the critical thing that they want to do.
Because once you've taken those off the table, now they can make judgments, their own judgments as to which birth certificates are real, which birth certificates aren't real, which ones count, which ones don't count.
And we will be having that fight as the next fight as a way to disenfranchise voters who they simply don't want to participate.
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