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Marc Lynch

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304 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So there's a mixture.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I don't think the Israelis were all unified about what would happen with Gaza.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

At some point, they even preferred it going back to Egypt.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

The Egyptians didn't want it.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So I don't think they all have universal views of what Gaza should be, but now I think they do.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I think that that has always been there, but it's gotten much worse, particularly because of the fact that you have people like Bengvir, who has a say, but even on makeup of certain units.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And so, yes, CNN captures that in this particular case, but it happens every day.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I mean, we've had, I think, over 100 such incidents just over the past month in Marsh.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And the military...

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

When people say, oh, it's just the settlers.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Yes, of course, they're just the settlers who are actually carrying out the violence, but they're being empowered by the military.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Even if the military don't necessarily sympathize with them, even under the best of circumstances, they're going there to protect them.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But it's not under the best of circumstances because you have units who actually are very sympathetic with them and therefore see

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

the project that the settlers are pursuing to be perfectly legitimate.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I think that really preceded October 7th.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

If you look at the 2015...

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Paul Bai-Piu in Israel found that, you know, half of Israelis supported removing Arabs from Israel itself, who are citizens.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

You know, 79% of Israeli Jews

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

believed that Jews should have privileges over non-Jews in the state of Israel.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So I think it crept in.