Marc Maron

Sure.

Took our picture.

On the video, yeah.

The content economy.

Yeah.

The one thing that we did was always keep it audio.

So then we were kind of – it's harder to clip audio.

And the people that listen to my show are in for the whole conversation.

And I think what you're talking about, which I try to kind of understand or wrap my brain around, is that there's a tribalization happening.

In terms of even if Bernie goes on Joe, that Bernie is focused and he knows what he wants to say.

But when it's taken out of context or it's solely looked at by a bubble of people, that the message can become obscured and diminished.

What makes him so good, though?

Because there is something grounded about him that you had it, too.

Well, there's a vulnerability to that.

Yes.

And there's a vulnerability to having that integrity and having those principles where if you're going to do it straight, that you have to leave yourself open to what's going to come back at you and still stand strong.

Correct.

We annoyed the average American into fascism.

because it was also a single issue that if you have progressives like, you know, and how you straddled this stuff in general with being, you know, constantly trolled and attacked by the right.

And then you have the left who are like, well, he droned a lot of people and then it never goes.