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I hope this is a developing story because don't you think it should be super prominent on these product pages? Like, don't buy this keyboard.

I hope this is a developing story because don't you think it should be super prominent on these product pages? Like, don't buy this keyboard.

if you don't if you don't have at least 15.1 that seems like something really important it's not like there's some special feature that gets enabled by having 15.1 it's like the basic functionality of the input device so like if you buy a magic mouse and you come home and you connect it to your computer that's running let's say sequoia 15.0 and the scrolling doesn't work you take it back to the store and say this mouse is broken they say oh you should have known when you bought that mouse it requires 15.1 you need to update your os

if you don't if you don't have at least 15.1 that seems like something really important it's not like there's some special feature that gets enabled by having 15.1 it's like the basic functionality of the input device so like if you buy a magic mouse and you come home and you connect it to your computer that's running let's say sequoia 15.0 and the scrolling doesn't work you take it back to the store and say this mouse is broken they say oh you should have known when you bought that mouse it requires 15.1 you need to update your os

That is super weird to me. Is it because of the USB control? Backport this, Apple. Provide an update at least to 14 and 13.

That is super weird to me. Is it because of the USB control? Backport this, Apple. Provide an update at least to 14 and 13.

Who knows? Why don't they just work out of the box? It's literally the same keyboard, but with a USB-C thing. I'm sure there are third-party USB-C keyboards that you can buy and just plug into a Mac, and they just work. Yes. Like through some generic keyboard driver. But the Apple-branded one... That's why I couldn't believe this story, and I thought it had to be a mistake or whatever.

Who knows? Why don't they just work out of the box? It's literally the same keyboard, but with a USB-C thing. I'm sure there are third-party USB-C keyboards that you can buy and just plug into a Mac, and they just work. Yes. Like through some generic keyboard driver. But the Apple-branded one... That's why I couldn't believe this story, and I thought it had to be a mistake or whatever.

So I hope by next week it'll be like, oh, that wasn't really true. It was just some other issue or whatever. But this seems...

So I hope by next week it'll be like, oh, that wasn't really true. It was just some other issue or whatever. But this seems...

ridiculous to me so be aware as of as of the time this story was written which is uh granted october 31st uh people were buying the new keyboards and mice and discovering that they don't work right unless you have mac os 15.1 or later but not too much later because the 15.2 beta doesn't work either

ridiculous to me so be aware as of as of the time this story was written which is uh granted october 31st uh people were buying the new keyboards and mice and discovering that they don't work right unless you have mac os 15.1 or later but not too much later because the 15.2 beta doesn't work either

Industry Forum or something?

Industry Forum or something?

I think there's a little tiny 5, a little tiny light gray 5 in a square laser etched on the metal part of the USB-C connector as a further eye test of old people. But yeah, last time we said these cables are expensive because they have little chips on them, but apparently under one meter, no chips.

I think there's a little tiny 5, a little tiny light gray 5 in a square laser etched on the metal part of the USB-C connector as a further eye test of old people. But yeah, last time we said these cables are expensive because they have little chips on them, but apparently under one meter, no chips.

Apple itself says this is a passive cable, so it's just a very well-constructed, well-insulated $70 one-meter-long Thunderbolt 5 cable.

Apple itself says this is a passive cable, so it's just a very well-constructed, well-insulated $70 one-meter-long Thunderbolt 5 cable.

Yeah, it's better enough that seemingly all the reviewers, except for the one from The Verge, said, oh, it's cured, no more jelly scrolling. But if you watch it in super slow-mo, you'll see it is just much improved, but it still exists.

Yeah, it's better enough that seemingly all the reviewers, except for the one from The Verge, said, oh, it's cured, no more jelly scrolling. But if you watch it in super slow-mo, you'll see it is just much improved, but it still exists.