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All right. So as the magic mouse lover in the group here, what I like about it is the scrolling swiping. Like that is everything. That's why I switched to it in the first place from my previous Logitech, you know, good mice.

All right. So as the magic mouse lover in the group here, what I like about it is the scrolling swiping. Like that is everything. That's why I switched to it in the first place from my previous Logitech, you know, good mice.

and you know before this i was using that logitech mouse that one of the first ones i think it was the mx master that had like the the wheel that you could like flick hard and it would unlock and spin freely for a little while and then latch back in you know and now a whole bunch of do it now but um you know scrolling is everything it turns out scrolling the way you scroll on touchpads

and you know before this i was using that logitech mouse that one of the first ones i think it was the mx master that had like the the wheel that you could like flick hard and it would unlock and spin freely for a little while and then latch back in you know and now a whole bunch of do it now but um you know scrolling is everything it turns out scrolling the way you scroll on touchpads

is way better for me and the way I use computers than the way you scroll with a mouse wheel. The Magic Mouse gives you touchpad scrolling on top of a mouse. So that is the good thing about it. Everything else about it, I tolerate or it's fine or whatever. But that's what I like about it.

is way better for me and the way I use computers than the way you scroll with a mouse wheel. The Magic Mouse gives you touchpad scrolling on top of a mouse. So that is the good thing about it. Everything else about it, I tolerate or it's fine or whatever. But that's what I like about it.

Now, when you look at the Magic Mouse, this was designed in a previous era of Apple and of their hardware design. probably almost nobody or nobody who was involved in the design of the Magic Mouse is likely to still be at Apple today or still be in the design group. Because, you know, especially the design group has had a lot of turnover in the meantime.

Now, when you look at the Magic Mouse, this was designed in a previous era of Apple and of their hardware design. probably almost nobody or nobody who was involved in the design of the Magic Mouse is likely to still be at Apple today or still be in the design group. Because, you know, especially the design group has had a lot of turnover in the meantime.

But... So, you know, keep in mind, like, what we're comparing this to is really a past era of Apple. Like, the Magic Mouse design, especially if you include the AA version, is very old. As you said, like, what, 15 years? Like... So I think today's Apple would do a pretty different version of it, even if no other reason than none of their products are this style anymore.

But... So, you know, keep in mind, like, what we're comparing this to is really a past era of Apple. Like, the Magic Mouse design, especially if you include the AA version, is very old. As you said, like, what, 15 years? Like... So I think today's Apple would do a pretty different version of it, even if no other reason than none of their products are this style anymore.

Like, this is just a totally different version of what they make today. So... I'm interested to see what that would mean. I do think that they wouldn't go through the trouble of redesigning it because mice are so unimportant to Apple unless they were going to actually do a more substantial change than just changing the port. So, you know, so obviously...

Like, this is just a totally different version of what they make today. So... I'm interested to see what that would mean. I do think that they wouldn't go through the trouble of redesigning it because mice are so unimportant to Apple unless they were going to actually do a more substantial change than just changing the port. So, you know, so obviously...

I think they're going to try to fix the complaints. And sometimes Apple does that. Like when we got the Apology MacBook Pro, everything was so much better in that one. They gave us back the SD card slot. They gave us back the HDMI port. They put the headphone jack back on the right side of the computer. They gave us back MagSafe.

I think they're going to try to fix the complaints. And sometimes Apple does that. Like when we got the Apology MacBook Pro, everything was so much better in that one. They gave us back the SD card slot. They gave us back the HDMI port. They put the headphone jack back on the right side of the computer. They gave us back MagSafe.

They are capable of going in a less minimal, less stripped-down industrial design direction when customers demand it enough and when it's enough of a gain. We've seen that now with the MacBook Pro. So we know they can do that.

They are capable of going in a less minimal, less stripped-down industrial design direction when customers demand it enough and when it's enough of a gain. We've seen that now with the MacBook Pro. So we know they can do that.

I think the mouse has a decent chance, not a guarantee, but has a decent chance of going in that same direction because not only have we seen that happen with the MacBook Pro, but also who uses mice now? As John said, it's different than it was 15 years ago. 15 years ago, yeah, laptops were still dominant then, but I think they're way more dominant now.

I think the mouse has a decent chance, not a guarantee, but has a decent chance of going in that same direction because not only have we seen that happen with the MacBook Pro, but also who uses mice now? As John said, it's different than it was 15 years ago. 15 years ago, yeah, laptops were still dominant then, but I think they're way more dominant now.

So the people who actually buy and use the Magic Mouse Maybe it's a more professional set than it used to be. Maybe Apple realized now, you know what? Most people have figured out right-click, so maybe we can do something a little bit better there.

So the people who actually buy and use the Magic Mouse Maybe it's a more professional set than it used to be. Maybe Apple realized now, you know what? Most people have figured out right-click, so maybe we can do something a little bit better there.