Marcy Guevara

And it still just comes back to like, really, maybe it is self-love in the end, but

Self-love is getting back to yourself.

Self-love is healing.

Self-love and self-acceptance is figuring out why am I like this and why are the things that have hurt me cause me to continue to behave in this way, right?

Or I'm looking for blood from a rock and I've done this 10 times in relationships and I need to

you know, learn and grow from it.

And I mean, I think that all of this is super real and I mean, you're not a therapist and yet I know that what you're saying isn't totally off.

We got to get Dr. Drew in here.

We got to get, no, we got, I, you know, I'm really good friends with his daughter, Paulina, but you know, this is something that we, um, you know, I think we'll hopefully continue to explore and that I'm going to continue to explore.

I think there's,

you know a lot of invitation here to look at things a different way because I also think that the Jillian that people have seen on television before and then the Jillian people see now in this like political era is also like this is a different side of Jillian this is a softer side of you this is a more like I would almost say mothering side of you that you know

there's a lot of feelings out there about Jillian Michaels, but I can only speak to my experience of her.

And that has been, you know, in these rooms that John has created.

And, um, you know, I think a lot of people have experiences of me too.

And the only thing that we know is what's real and that's between us.

Well, and I would say that anyone out there that feels that Jillian Michaels gave them an eating disorder maybe should evaluate that too.

And how much power they've given a show that's on television that was sensationalized and that, as Jillian has said, a 29-year-old trainer who was plucked out of obscurity to become this famous villain.

I mean, that's also a whole narrative that if you want to say that Jillian Michaels ruined your life and fucked you up...

I'm sorry for you that you let a show have that much power over you and a person you've never met.

You know, I mean, I think there's a lot of people that feel that, you know, they've got an eating disorder or this or that.