Marcy Guevara

I mean, listen, I think that a lot of things on TV can give you an eating disorder.

I think that absolutely 100%, as you just said, getting back to ourselves, which is hard because I think it's like this individualistic mentality is that what is also just like dividing us in general right now.

Like, I think I'm also to a degree exhausted of community, if that makes sense.

And I say that lightly because I already know that this conversation will be viewed as very problematic.

and I'm still having it because to a degree I'm exhausted of trying to perform for others and not myself.

And so I think it's getting back to yourself and getting back to the why that we do things and why we move, why we eat what we eat, why we do what we do.

You know, I think for me, being okay to be disliked, being okay to say the unpopular thing, being okay to say the thing that feels a little dangerous, it's like, this has pushed me.

And, you know, I think, yeah, it's really surprised me.

This whole experience has surprised me.

And I think having a bond with Jillian, it has also been surprising.

But again, it's like, as a person, as me, me,

I've tried everything right I've tried everything except for Jillian's way so for me it's like I'm always going to be seeking that thing and when I appeal to Jillian in that room I came from that emotional element I can't speak to the law I can't speak to science I'm not a therapist.

But I can speak to the heart.

And I really think that's where Jillian's message is.

It's like the trauma, the wounds that cause us to behave in the ways that we behave or cause us to make the choices that we choose is ultimately like what she's trying to, it seems to me, get down to the bottom of.

And I think that that is the angle that is where the connection was made, because I'll be honest, I'm not someone that's super therapized.

It hasn't been something I've really liked in my life or had good experiences in.

So when you think about, well, I've been on every diet and I've gone to every trainer and I've done the Billy Blanks and the Jillian Michaels workout, which, by the way, I thrifted recently, too.

Jillian DVDs.

Why didn't you just ask me for an app?