Marian Leonard

That's the way it's set up.

And then they would meet anybody concerned with McCann's incarceration, that he may have had counselors or whatever, and the governor.

So they would get input from them.

And then these two parole board members that we've met.

makes a submission to the 15 members.

They have a conference, if you like, and it's not, just explain to me, that it's not a light decision that they discuss every aspect of the case.

So we do get a chance to put our feelings, our fears, everything in person to the board members.

And I have to say, they were just...

They were so open and they were so receptive.

There was no closing us down.

There was nothing confrontational.

The first time I did feel it was like we were going through the trial nearly again.

And the continuing impact and the impact.

I mean, he's out on temporary release quite a lot.

And it seems to be very loose.

So the impact of family members walking into him, as my nephew did in the IOLAC Centre when he was in at a meeting.

Yeah, in City Centre.

He goes to the library there apparently.

And the fact that he meets with murderers in the IOLAC Centre.

And... Yeah.