Marian Leonard
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Okay.
So she asked Esther and Frank to adopt her.
Ultimately, yes.
And in that year, in that July, he was actually with the parole board, or not the parole board, with the board, the adoption board.
With his solicitor, trying to argue it.
No, Esther didn't know the...
The adoption board put an ultimatum to him because Esther was still ringing and pestering them.
And they said if he didn't tell Esther, they would.
So he was running out of time.
President and Leinster.
He went to Barcelona, he travelled with him.
He had a big ego.
And status meant an awful lot to him.
And unfortunately for him, status meant nothing to Esther.
So she didn't do the...
what she called the sucking up to the Derry O'Rourkes, George Gibneys, the people that we now know the names of.
Yes, they would be in the breakfast room in the evening time having meetings.
It would go silent if I went through the room into the kitchen.
They were regular visitors, part of his house.