Marina Hyde

I can't believe it's true.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, I suppose it's drama.

But it's investigative reporting.

It's like sort of Panorama, but it's not.

It's basically at 60 minutes.

It's actually sort of part of the global cultural conversation.

We're talking about it because it's become the battleground of a fight over editorial independence, corporate ownership, Trump, ego.

Can I say something first before we say this?

It actually started before then, all of this, because there was a Trump lawsuit.

Trump brought a lawsuit against CBS that some what he felt was some kind of selective editing of a Kamala Harris interview.

This was in CBS owned by Paramount was still owned by the Redstone family.

And Shari Redstone was trying to sell it.

And a lot of people thought this case would eventually get thrown out because it was perfectly reasonable sort of First Amendment defense to it.

But in the end, because they needed regulatory approval to be able to sell the whole of Paramount to Skydance, to David Ellison's company, they settled with Trump for $16 million.

And a lot of people within 60 minutes were very, very angry that this has happened and said this is ridiculous.

The editorial independence has been sacrificed for corporate interests, for Trump interests.

Scott Pelley, who is a veteran correspondent, was very vocal about that.

But anyway, the deal went through, they got their regulatory approval, and they clearly regarded that as a price to pay.

But we've then seen...