Mario Carbone
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319 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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I mean, there's just not another city that looks like this, right? There's not another city that looks like New York. I think for those that... For those that sort of complain about the classic New York isn't what it was, I think you're misunderstanding the point of New York. New York's job is to change. That's exactly what he's saying. I say this all the time. This is exactly what he said.
I can't tell you how annoyed I am. There's a generation of 18, 19, 20-year-olds that are getting their first taste of New York. It's the great... It's the great tournament of New York. How long are you going to be here? How many rounds are you going to make? It's here to be the great editor. There's so much to learn from this place. New York is not the one that our parents remember.
It's not the one from...
my grandparents when they came from our childhood it's not the one from our childhood that's what makes new york great it's malleable it's here for the next generation it's going to challenge the next one yeah and for those that are still here right it's it's the great tournament of life that is manhattan or new york city yeah yeah do you still look here i do not still there you go
Before we go, before we go.
It's hard when the financial world is in a questionable place, right? It's hard for... It's hard for young, aspiring restaurateurs or any industry to get the backing in a shaky financial moment to do something. So in times like this, you're going to see less creativity because it's too risky. You're going to see more status quo. You're going to see more safe plays.
You're going to see people taking chances when it's safer to take chances.
When the economy's healthy and money is cheap and there's investors out there looking to take chances on you. So it's a tough time for that generation like it was for us coming out of 08. There's not a lot of us that are going to get that break and we had to do –
crazy shit to get to get those six tables um so i'm here for those who are who are out there who are challenging um guys like kwame tatiana who are doing incredible work right now um it's a tough time man it's a tough time to to to take any other little guys it could be the tiny it could be six tables like anybody that you've seen i mean you've tasted recently it
industry i remember when industry was just starting right these two guys who looked who looked and felt a lot like me and rich when we first got to that pizzeria but you see it in their eyes it's like it's like tony montana man like you it's the eyes man like you can see like that guy they're hungry yeah they're gonna that they're gonna make it man i don't care like there was that guy that was making pizza i think chrissy's pizza or something in the oven in his apartment like in brooklyn yeah in brooklyn i think chrissy's pizza yeah similar vibe i assume like
You're not going to tell them no. They're going to figure it out. They're going to make it through it.
They're going to. Yeah, I mean, we're just starting to see it. But it's going to. And I think that its greatest effect is going to be in cost to the customer. It's going to get passed on, right? I think certainly for us, if my options are...
Choose a lesser ingredient than what I'm accustomed to bringing in because it's too expensive or bring that ingredient in at the additional cost and pass it on to the customer. We're going to choose that one, right? Because I feel like I've made a promise to my customers to give them the best ingredients in the world. And if I'm saying that I need that, I'm not going to choose something else.
So it's going to get passed on to them, unfortunately, right? I think that's where it's going to manifest itself is in rising costs to customers.
I feel like it is a function. I feel like Carbone is a functioning museum, right? I think that it's, Italian Americans, not dissimilar to any sort of other immigrant path, right? The whole point of this journey, if you follow it back to your ancestors, my ancestors from Southern Italy leaving a place to come to the United States for the betterment of the next generation, right?
The entire point of the experiment was for us to assimilate into just becoming Americans, right? and to sort of eventually become less and less Italian, as each generation passes, you become just Americans. That was the whole point of this assimilation.
To me, for community, for what we're doing, what I'm leaving behind, I have great pride in that Carbone stands as a nightly functioning museum that you can go to, you can visit, you can consume what was the woolly mammoth that is the Italian American in New York in the 1950s. Because my children will be less Italian than I am, as I am less Italian than my parents are. And that's the point.
When you lament the fact that there are no Italians in Little Italy, you are also proving the point of what the purpose of that was. They weren't supposed to stay here. They were supposed to just become Americans. That's why they left their country. So when it was at its most potent,
And I chose that period, the first generation of Italian-Americans in 1950, to make this thing, to make this play that's thankfully had a very long run. We're fucking cats over here. We're 10 years in and we're still going. You get to experience this museum because over time, the Italian-American will just become the American. Yeah.
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