Marissa Nelson

How have we changed as a couple since we've had our kids?

And to have like a real loving, honest conversation about that.

And so what are we doing in our daily lives and in our lives in general to create that space for us that we can continue to come back to?

These lessons that we take home with us is around, what do I give myself permission on vacation that I don't in my everyday life?

For whatever reason, I do believe we all give ourselves permission to relax a little bit more on vacation than we normally do otherwise.

By day three, people are like very calm.

Like you can feel the energy shift in them.

And I think that's really important.

By day three of not having to do any dishes.

Absolutely.