Mark Baxter

Yeah, which is part of the, sort of, the enjoyment of it, if that's an okay term to use.

Like, I love really finding out about people.

Yeah.

And not just, like, what's wrong with them, so to speak, or what they're struggling with, but, like, what's of meaning to them, what's of value to them, what their ethics are, how they think about the world, you know, what their sense of, kind of, like, life and death is and relationships, like...

People come with that stuff.

Sure, they come with the issues that they're facing, but it pretty soon opens up into such an enormous arena.

What's underneath it.

Yeah.

But also then the early stuff, like what happened?

What's your story?

What's the impact of these adverse experiences that you went through?

How did you survive that?

And how did you cope with that?

And how are those coping skills kind of passed there?

They're used by date in a way.

So often when people come in, it's their adaptive coping skills that they have to form through childhood, through high school, that have now become kind of part of the barrier to a bigger life.

Yeah, just a huge variety there.

So, I mean, one of the things we're doing when I first meet someone is just getting a sense of their insight, their reflective capacity, their metacognition, like their ability to notice and know what they're thinking as they're thinking it.

their introspection, their ability to notice and know what they're feeling as they're feeling it.

And people come with a wide sort of variety of kind of skills and experience in that area.