Mark Bowden

Let's get going.

Let's get me on the air.

Let me talk about this.

She cannot suppress herself.

Yeah, she wants to get going on this and she goes, what's interesting about this is, and this may be scripted, but she goes for the image of the family there.

She picks up on the family that comes from the male presenter there.

She enforces that we are...

a family.

And so by invoking that, it's now very hard for you and me to go, well, hang on, what's happening here?

You're a substitute.

That's the nature of the family, isn't it?

It's like we're all a family until you're out of the family.

Because it isn't a family.

It's a corporation.

Yeah, it's a corporation.

And when they tell you you're going, you will be going.

And when they tell you to come back, you're like, come back.

So it's an interesting family because you're out until they say, no, no, come back in because one of the family can't make it this week.

They don't hold the chair free and go, listen, we're a family.

And we're never going to put anybody in the place of our family members.