Mark Dubowitz

There have been multiple attempts at diplomacy with Iran.

I'm sure we're going to talk about it.

Scott mentioned the JCPOA, so we should certainly talk about the JCPOA, which was the 2015 deal that Barack Obama reached with Iran.

But multiple attempts to actually get the Iranians to negotiate away their nuclear weapons program.

I mean, it's worth mentioning that if Iran wanted to have civilian nuclear energy, there are 23 countries in the world that have it.

but they don't have enrichment and they don't have reprocessing.

We sign these deals called the gold standard with the South Koreans, with the Emiratis, with others.

And we say, if you want civilian energy, you can have power plants, you can buy your fuel rods from abroad, but there's no reason to have enrichment or plutonium reprocessing because those are the key capabilities you need to develop nuclear weapons.

Now, the five countries that have those capabilities and don't have nuclear weapons are Argentina, Brazil, Holland, Germany, and Japan.

And I think it's the view of many administrations over many years, including many European leaders, that the Islamic Republic of Iran is very different from those aforementioned countries because it is...

It's been dedicated to terrorism.

It's been killing Americans and other Westerners and other Middle Easterners.

And it is a dangerous regime.

You don't want to have that dangerous regime retaining the key capabilities and needs to develop nuclear weapons.

But I want to kind of get back more to the present.

I mentioned this was around negotiations at Oman.

Scott's saying that President Trump had said, here's the offer, take it or leave it, zero enrichment, full dismantlement.

Well, in fact, that wasn't the offer that was presented to the Iranians at Oman.

The offer was a one-page offer.

And it said, you can temporarily enrich above ground.