Mark Dubowitz

But what I think is absolutely certain is that if Iran...

develops that nuclear weapon and is allowed to retain the key capabilities to do so, you're going to see five, six countries in the Middle East, at least three, four countries in the Indo-Pacific asking for the same capability.

And then you're going to have a club of nuclear weapons powers that will have an additional five, six, seven over the next 10 to 20 years.

Oh, I think it sends the opposite message, Lex.

I think if they see what has happened and that it's successful and it stopped Iran from developing nuclear weapons and in addition...

Trump was able to negotiate an agreement for zero enrichment and full dismantlement, then the message to all these other countries is, number one, you don't need it.

And number two, if you try to get it, then the United States is going to use American power.

Now, I'm not suggesting the United States is going to start bombing the Saudis or the Turks or the Emiratis, clearly not the Japanese.

I mean, many of them are our allies.

But I think the

counterproliferation tools to prevent these countries from developing nuclear weapons, including sanctions and export controls and many of the things.

And plus, I think those countries... I understand that in the Middle East, despite Scott's focus on Israel, when you talk to Arab leaders, their biggest concern is the threat from Iran.

It's not the threat from Israel.

They're not concerned with the threat from Israel.

That's why you had the Abraham Accords.

You know, this is why the UAE and Bahrain and Morocco entered into this peace agreement with Israel.

The Saudis will one day, and they'll bring many other Arab and Muslim countries in it.

They don't say Israel is a threat.

They see Iran as a threat.

And so if you counter that threat, you eliminate Iran's nuclear weapons proliferation and expansion.