Mark Follman
👤 PersonAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
So yes, he was depressed. Yes, there was concern he was starting to become suicidal, but he also had aspirations. Cases of desperation, suicidality that's more extreme, you don't see that kind of talk, I think, in most cases. Yeah, that can be very significant. Again, it's a set of data that I think becomes very complex and unique to each case.
And I don't think this is easy work to do, but it can be very effective when it's done well at a level of quality with expertise. There's actually a term that they use in the field called structured professional judgment. which is referring to, okay, we've gathered all this information.
And I don't think this is easy work to do, but it can be very effective when it's done well at a level of quality with expertise. There's actually a term that they use in the field called structured professional judgment. which is referring to, okay, we've gathered all this information.
And I don't think this is easy work to do, but it can be very effective when it's done well at a level of quality with expertise. There's actually a term that they use in the field called structured professional judgment. which is referring to, okay, we've gathered all this information.
Now, we're going to analyze it together as a team, bringing our various expertise with a system, with a methodology. We're going to go through these different areas that we know about and draw a conclusion from that about how concerned are we, what's the level of danger, and what should we do about it. So that's also by way of saying that there is judgment going on here by professionals.
Now, we're going to analyze it together as a team, bringing our various expertise with a system, with a methodology. We're going to go through these different areas that we know about and draw a conclusion from that about how concerned are we, what's the level of danger, and what should we do about it. So that's also by way of saying that there is judgment going on here by professionals.
Now, we're going to analyze it together as a team, bringing our various expertise with a system, with a methodology. We're going to go through these different areas that we know about and draw a conclusion from that about how concerned are we, what's the level of danger, and what should we do about it. So that's also by way of saying that there is judgment going on here by professionals.
They're trying to figure out how to interpret these behaviors and these signs, and it's not always clear. If a kid says, I'm really looking forward to my summer vacation, that's going to be a good signal.
They're trying to figure out how to interpret these behaviors and these signs, and it's not always clear. If a kid says, I'm really looking forward to my summer vacation, that's going to be a good signal.
They're trying to figure out how to interpret these behaviors and these signs, and it's not always clear. If a kid says, I'm really looking forward to my summer vacation, that's going to be a good signal.
Yeah. It's a great question that comes up a lot around the subject because it does sound very resource intensive. And in some ways it is. I've been in a lot of settings where leaders and communities or school systems are asking, like, how do we do this? Like, How do we get the resources? Teachers and administrators are already so overtaxed anyway. Now you're asking us to do this whole other job.
Yeah. It's a great question that comes up a lot around the subject because it does sound very resource intensive. And in some ways it is. I've been in a lot of settings where leaders and communities or school systems are asking, like, how do we do this? Like, How do we get the resources? Teachers and administrators are already so overtaxed anyway. Now you're asking us to do this whole other job.
Yeah. It's a great question that comes up a lot around the subject because it does sound very resource intensive. And in some ways it is. I've been in a lot of settings where leaders and communities or school systems are asking, like, how do we do this? Like, How do we get the resources? Teachers and administrators are already so overtaxed anyway. Now you're asking us to do this whole other job.
But if you flip that on its head, it's like the people who are going to do this work are already in place. Teachers and administrators and counselors in a school system, they're already tasked with the safety and well-being of students. And so it's really more about training and expertise and institutional knowledge of how to handle the situation when it arises.
But if you flip that on its head, it's like the people who are going to do this work are already in place. Teachers and administrators and counselors in a school system, they're already tasked with the safety and well-being of students. And so it's really more about training and expertise and institutional knowledge of how to handle the situation when it arises.
But if you flip that on its head, it's like the people who are going to do this work are already in place. Teachers and administrators and counselors in a school system, they're already tasked with the safety and well-being of students. And so it's really more about training and expertise and institutional knowledge of how to handle the situation when it arises.
You touched on something else that's important here. There's this perception that this is happening all the time. There's this kind of inordinate fear that school shootings are happening every day. That's just not true. We've spun ourselves up as a society into thinking that this problem is much bigger than it is. But it's complicated or it's tricky because it's a significant problem.
You touched on something else that's important here. There's this perception that this is happening all the time. There's this kind of inordinate fear that school shootings are happening every day. That's just not true. We've spun ourselves up as a society into thinking that this problem is much bigger than it is. But it's complicated or it's tricky because it's a significant problem.
You touched on something else that's important here. There's this perception that this is happening all the time. There's this kind of inordinate fear that school shootings are happening every day. That's just not true. We've spun ourselves up as a society into thinking that this problem is much bigger than it is. But it's complicated or it's tricky because it's a significant problem.
It's a recurring problem. And it's, I think, a problem that probably most, if not everyone, would agree we want to be zero. And it may never be zero, but let's make it less and less. So I think to your point, the idea that we would devote resources to it is defensible. Certainly we pour a shit ton of resources into reactive measures, which arguably are not effective at all.