Mark Grote

So there's your Webb rock bottom.

There's your Thielbar rock bottom.

Ray, would you like to give the Phil Maton rock bottom?

I'm not sure when the Phil Maton rock bottom occurred.

I think it was when he got the first two men out in the inning and then the next three on, and Kregers had to bring in another reliever to get out of it.

Yes.

The fact that Phil Maton didn't even pitch in that game...

And it was eight to six Cubs blow it.

That feels kind of out of place, doesn't it?

The Maytime didn't even make it into that game and they still blew a five nothing lead.

He didn't get to participate in the bad jamboree.

Um, Hobie Milner, where have you gone?

So yes, my answer is, I will just say it succinctly.

Yes.

The Cubs bullpen is hit rock bottom.

Phil Maton, by the way, five consecutive scoreless outings.

Just want to point that out.

What?

So maybe he should be back in the old triangle of trust.

No, that's why you got to look deeper because in that, he didn't give up a run when he loaded the bases, did he?