Mark Halperin

What do you think it's doing to, again, to the culture that they accept that?

Not Trump's original actions, but what's it doing to our culture that they don't condemn it?

Let me give you a hypothetical with a purpose here.

and this could be a six-hour answer, but you'll just give me your top lines.

You can go in a time machine back to the day after Barack Obama was reelected in 2012, so November 2012, and you can bring any two people with you.

And the mission the three of you have is stop Donald Trump from being elected in 2016.

What could have been done?

What could you and your two compatriots do?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, there's a case to be made that almost anybody else but Hillary Clinton would have.

Yeah.

That would have brought her brought her back with you and just say, don't run.

And that solves the problem pretty quick.

You you've been again, part of part of why you're singular, I believe, is because you've written about the excesses of the left, not just from a political point of view, but from a societal and moral point of view.

but also a searing critic of Donald Trump in so many ways.

What's the status of all those impulses that led to the excesses of Title IX, that led to a woke takeover of the New York Times newsroom, led to the woke takeover of corporate boards?

What's the status of all that energy, all that passion?

Has it been snuffed out?

Has it been eliminated?