Mark Hopwood

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Elucidations · Episode 22: Ben Laurence discusses collective action · 6 Apr 2011 podcast

But I just said, well look, what it is for a group of people to be building a wall is that someone's laying the bricks down, someone's laying cement on top of them, someone else is laying more bricks. voice-verified

that there's just a set of actions that are going on and that all together that makes a group action. voice-verified

Is there a problem with that kind of picture? voice-verified

I mean it seems like you think there is. voice-verified

There's a case that you raise of something that happens with a Swedish diplomat that seems like a particularly clear case of that. voice-verified

I mean I wonder if you could describe that. voice-verified

So it seems like one way we might think about this picture that you're objecting to is in terms of a flow chart that we could draw of an action or something. voice-verified

And so I start and I write down voice-verified

a particular belief on my flowchart and then I have an arrow and maybe that is a rock bumping into something else that gives me an intention and then I have another arrow and that gives me an action and all the way voice-verified

there are these rock bumping kind of causes that get me from one point to another. voice-verified

Is that a reasonable way of of looking at it? voice-verified

So, as you've said, this is gonna become a really complicated question. voice-verified

What's what's wrong with this picture? voice-verified

But voice-verified

Maybe we could just get a sense of your alternative picture. voice-verified

I mean someone might ask, Well, what other kind of explanation is there? voice-verified

I mean, maybe it's complicated to work out, you know, how all these rocks bump into each other. voice-verified

Maybe there's a lot of rocks that you know, the mind's a pretty complex thing, so is action. voice-verified

But that's all it's gonna be, that's the only kind of explanation available. voice-verified

What other kind of explanation of action can we give? voice-verified

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