Mark Hopwood

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Elucidations · Episode 15: Brian Leiter discusses religious toleration · 8 Sep 2010 podcast

But these are beliefs that I neither have for religious reasons, nor it seems have normal standards of evidence or argument for them if we're thinking about that in terms of the natural sciences and common sense. voice-verified

So perhaps John Lennon. voice-verified

So we've raised a couple of possible counterexamples for this view. voice-verified

It seems like one could possibly raise more and you'll have responses to those. voice-verified

But to get back to the question we originally raised, the point of the definition was to help us answer this question of Is there anything specific to religion that's different from other matters of conscience that particularly merits toleration? voice-verified

Your response to that was no, and I take it that your view is something of the form Well if it's the case that what distinguishes religion is the issuing of categorical moral demands and insulation from reasons and evidence, there's really no reason to think that I've either of those characteristics particularly ground any special form of toleration. voice-verified

Would that be reasonable to say? voice-verified

So the notion of respect that Martha Nussbaum employs is based on this idea of some kind of faculty that we have as human beings to search for meaning in life. voice-verified

And your point is, well maybe we do have such a faculty, but it can go really wrong. voice-verified

So just the mere having of it can't be enough to merit this, as you said, thicker, more substantial kind of respect. voice-verified

But what about if one raised the following kind of response from the Nussbound position? voice-verified

Well, she invokes the story of Roger Williams, who was involved in the founding of Rhode Island, and he seems to have had a series of experiences with the Native Americans where he discovered that, contrary to his expectations, they were a lot more like him than he thought. voice-verified

It seems like what's happened there in voice-verified

Something like that case is that someone has recognized here is an exercise of this faculty that I have. voice-verified

It's quite similar to my exercise of it. voice-verified

These people are going for something like what I'm going for. voice-verified

In a very different way, they have different beliefs. voice-verified

I wouldn't subscribe to their beliefs, but there's a kind of recognition there. voice-verified

So might there not be room for the idea that, well, sure, there can be perversions or voice-verified

breakdowns in this faculty that Nussbaum appeals to. voice-verified

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