Mark Kerr

Because I helped another person.

And then when it premiered at HBO at the studios, this was like the whole crowning moment is having like a 65-year-old grandmother come over to me who I would have nothing in common with.

and say to me, you know what, that was beautiful.

My grandson, he's got a drinking problem and I don't know what to do.

It's like this door had been opened where she felt comfortable to sit down and talk with me about her grandson.

And it was like this moment of like, oh fuck, this is what it's about.

It's about opening that door up so people can connect and go, well, if he can do it, I can tell my truth.

You know, because it's difficult and addictions are just, I mean, shaming and they keep you in a box and it's just this, it's a horrible existence.

No.

No, no, no.

So they've talked about the neuroplasticity of drugs like that to create new pathways instantaneously.

Yeah.

You know what I mean when I say them?

Just faking.

Oh, my God.

Total bizarro world.

Yeah, none of that makes sense, man.

I mean, it just, that's, so that's a whole other rabbit hole.

It really doesn't make any sense.

No.