Mark Krikorian
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And that's way more important to them than a bunch of Venezuelan scumbags protecting them. They couldn't care less about that.
Absolutely. And the issue isn't Mexican illegal aliens because Mexico always takes its own citizens back. They've never made problems there. It's Central Americans and others. And, you know, both out of fear of Trump,
mainly, I think, out of fear of Trump, they are saying, look, we'll play ball with getting rid of these non-Mexicans as long as you help pay the costs and we don't end up stuck with them here.
Our estimate is, and some of our allies don't like it because it's not high enough, but our estimate is at least 8 million, maybe 9 million illegal immigrants, most of them actually taken into custody and then let go on purpose.
But then an additional two, maybe three million who got past the border patrol because the border patrol was busy being a Walmart greeter for all the other illegal aliens and they couldn't do their own job. So, eight to nine million, I think is a plausible number. And remember, some illegal aliens already here left during that time. So, that wasn't the growth in the illegal population.
That was just a number of people who came in. And you've just pointed out that known gotaways could be upwards of two, possibly as high as three million. I mean, nobody really knows. Well, the known gotaways are, yeah, two, two and a half million, but there's unknown gotaways because the term gotaway is people that they know crossed. They have photographic evidence, sensor hits, something.
There's people who don't, they don't know cross and we have no idea what that number is.
It was less than four years of Trump, although it depends on how you count who was deported. And I don't mean to get into the weeds, but remember, there was something called Title 42 during COVID, where the border patrol could just bounce people back. Didn't matter whether you said asylum, schm-asylum, it didn't matter, they just threw you out.
those bulked up the numbers for Trump, I mean, for Biden, frankly. So, we're going to see significant numbers of people, but it's not just numbers, it's who's getting deported. Because they're starting, they're pursuing a worst first policy, you know, the gangbangers and what have you. But most illegal immigrants aren't gangbangers, they're just regular working students. Right.
Those people have to go, too. And that's going to happen once they start doing worksite enforcement, rains on factories and what have you. And that's coming. Oman said it's coming.
The first thing to keep in mind is anything like that would be a process, not an event. In other words, it's not as though you're going to wake up one morning and all the illegal aliens are gone. It's going to be a process of sort of continual enforcement whittling down the illegal population and causing significant numbers of people to go home on their own so they avoid arrest.
That's what happened during the big deportation push under Eisenhower. Most of the people who left, most of the illegals who left, left on their own. They weren't taken into custody by the Border Patrol. To get to the agricultural thing, only a tiny share of the illegal population works in ag. I mean, like, less than 5% of the illegal workforce works in agriculture.
They're almost all in city jobs, you know, construction, services, you name it. And there is an unlimited guest worker program for ag. the H-2A program, which I'm not even a big fan of, but it exists. And the problem is farmers don't want to use it. They say there's too much red tape, what have you, too many requirements, you have to provide housing and what have you. Well, too bad.
You know, use the program that's available. And the goal needs to be to wean those sectors off of the use of illegal labor, and even in agriculture, that's possible. Because let's face it, there's no illegal aliens harvesting wheat in North Dakota or corn in Iowa. They're working in fresh fruit and vegetable agriculture.
And even there, they're working in the portion that is for fresh sale in the supermarket as opposed to processing, like tomatoes. Tomatoes that you get tomato sauce, nobody touches those, all harvested by machine. It's fresh stuff. So, even there, technology advances and makes it possible for more and more labor to be replaced.
And if we have to import blueberries, because there's just no way to grow, not blueberries, but blackberries, no way to grow them without massive, cheap third-world labor, well, then let's just import the blueberries instead of import the blueberry pickers. But The point is we need agriculture to evolve the way the rest of the economy has away from the medieval way that it's now done.
They use modern technology, but the labor relations are medieval. It's just incredible.
All of which, there is real mechanization alternatives that cost money, and so employers don't want to pursue them.
Yeah, I mean, it's not all going to get stalled, but I think your basic point is that maybe they've raised expectations too high is valid. That could be a problem. But, you know, as JD said, I think it was after the election or maybe even during the campaign, he said, look, let's deport the first million and then we'll work on the second million and then we'll work on the third million.
In other words, one thing at a time. But yes, I think the presidents may have raised expectations higher than is realistic, but it's not even so much that there's Washington dysfunction and paralysis and all that. There is some to that. It's just that you know, how many people can you deport at one time?
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