Mark Landler
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314 appearances
5 recordings
2 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard 30 Jul
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So what you see is that after a very long period of trying to flatter Trump, of trying to mollify Trump, of trying to cajole Trump, European leaders are now
showing a bit more of a willingness to stand up to him.
They're beginning to say, no way, we won't tolerate this.
We won't accept it.
And that's a really, really fascinating moment in the evolution of how foreign leaders, particularly European leaders, have dealt with President Trump.
NATO allies, in the words of one former American diplomat,
had gone through five stages of grief with President Trump.
It began with denial right after he got back into the White House.
It transitioned very quickly to anger, perhaps after that terrible meeting that Trump had with Vladimir Zelensky of Ukraine, shifted to bargaining, continued into depression, and has finally arrived at something approaching acceptance.
I think what it has to do with is the fact that these leaders who felt during the period of time that they were negotiating with President Trump over tariffs, that there was a deal to be done, that they could do business with him, that they could get some of the damage limited.
I think in this case, they view this as far more fundamental, far more existential.
And it's one in which they felt they had to take a stand.
They had to draw a line.
This is not open to negotiation.
This is a moment where you have to stand up for your values.
Because Europe really views the system of international law, of a rules-based order, as central to its existence, to its economic prosperity, and frankly, to Western liberal democracy.
All of that
is put at risk by having a sudden rupture, a shattering of this rules-based order.
And so what you saw in Davos was a series of leaders stepping up on the dais to sort of warn about the costs of this and to begin to talk about what they need to do to respond to it.
So you had President Macron of France get up and talk about how we prefer partners to bullies.
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