Mark Langdon

And even like Freiburg, who the Europa League was too hot for them,

Still reached the final.

They're in the Conference League, which feels about their level.

The Europa League, Juventus, Milan.

So, Leverkusen as well.

Sunderland.

Yes, and the mighty Sunderland as well.

So, maybe it's just been a slight quirk.

So, Fiorentina this season were in the Conference League.

They...

were in a relegation battle for most of the season.

So, actually, they had to concentrate on domestic matters after January.

I don't think they played a full-strength team.

I think they had a few injuries as well when they played Palace in that game, for example.

Like, Chelsea were just a complete...

fluke really um you know bettis would have been great winners of the conference league when when they were in it so um i'd sort of just give it another couple of years before we completely rule it out and you know there were times when it was cup winners cup when you might have one team if they hadn't had a great league season would be like way better than kind of some minnows that had won cup so i don't think it's kind of you know completely abnormal to kind of have

you know, a couple of really big teams that are up against sort of smaller ones.

First of all, I'm so glad you mentioned it was five o'clock because I might have tuned in at eight and completely missed it.

So there's a public service announcement.

Well done, Max.