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wake up to on Saturday morning that explains that this is the U.S.
military action that we have all been waiting for.
Right.
He's basically saying in this video, we are going to take out the heads of the regime and now the people of Iran should rise up and basically finish the job of ousting their government.
And then later in the day, we start hearing reports that Supreme Leader Khamenei is dead.
The reports first come out of Israel, and then late afternoon, President Trump puts out a post on social media announcing that he has been killed.
It's enormous.
The Supreme Leader of Iran is the identity of a theocratic government that has existed for 47 years.
He is not only the spiritual head, but he provides all direction for the lower levels of Iran's government.
And not only that, he is one of the most brutal autocrats, not only in the region, but in the world.
and has a long history of fomenting chaos and violence around the Middle East and, as the president said, attacking American troops.
So this is a historic moment.
So President Trump is explicitly saying that he wants the regime gone and that the people of Iran should capitalize on this moment.
They should rise up and overthrow the government.
David, how likely do we think that actually is?
And is that a strategy that could even work for a regime that has proven itself over and over again to be extremely resilient?
But it sounds like what you're saying is that the regime is not going to fall easily.
Right.
So do we think that it has the capacity to fight back?
Like the reporting that The Times has been doing and what we've talked about on the show is that the Iranian regime is extremely weak in this moment.