Mark Moriarty

Speaking of leadership, 2001, you had the chance to be leader of Fine Gael and you left.

Like I remember when they asked... A scary place to go now, that studio.

Yeah.

Because you all sound the same to me.

You had an outing in the Oireachtas there recently.

Yeah.

Which reminded me of probably back in the original News Talk days.

How did you get, how did you enjoy that?

Well, put it like this.

You were standing like that as well, the kind of.

Oh, you were kneeling.

You're not short on the controversial bits, as I knew in my research.

So you sat or you stood or knelt there and you made the statement that smearing the bejesus, in quotation marks.

I actually did that on the news talk podcast.

But look, I'm not a big into politics day in, day out.

But I was like, I remember hearing him going,

But sure, everyone knows that's what politics really is, no?

So what happened was... What do you feel when you first hear that?

If you were in America today, what way would you be voting?

So it's the only thing that matters.