Mark Mothersbaugh

Enough said.

And we thought, oh, my God, these are so deep.

We made a song out of it.

Really?

And that changed.

Then it just went even one step deeper with him.

And he found a band in Akron that were – they were a –

like a country western band or something yeah and he and he he started getting them to to take his lyrics and write music to it and then he was sending us that stuff and we were like oh man there really should be a general boy album it's like it's shocking that we didn't do that but could happen you never god bless i just have such a fond memory of just like because you would bring in these

Yeah.

Cable television, when it first came out, they were like, we don't make any money.

We can't pay you anything.

That's how MTV came up with that idea.

diabolical system where people made their films and then

MTV didn't pay you anything.

And you never got anything back from it.

So it's like that totally changed what it meant to be in a band.

Like for Devo, we were before MTV.

So by the time we got to do three albums, and by the time we did our third one, we had Whippet on it, which kept us around for a couple more albums.

But...

And then in the early 80s, it's like if you were in a band, you had to have a single that was also a video, and somebody had to pay for that, and the record companies didn't want to pay for it.