Mark Moyar

It's much more divided now.

And I think partly because, well, certainly we have some very influential figures on the right here who are kind of questioning this from the national interest perspective.

With being allied with Israel, yes, I think the harder point, what people struggle with more is, do we have a national interest sort of supporting what's going on in Gaza?

But I mean, I think even on the question in terms of is it our national interest, I think that one's

You know, something's been debated, too.

I mean, you probably saw there was a big flap with the president of the Heritage Foundation a week or so ago.

You know, so clearly there's a lot of conflict on this.

Well, a lot of it, I think, has to do with history.

I mean, we have, there's a sense in this country still, although again, this is sort of fading, that in the aftermath of World War II, after all that was inflicted on the Jewish people, that they deserved to have a homeland and a place where they could live in safety.

You know, we've always also had this competing view.

Well, we also want to be friends with the the Arab countries and Islamic countries around them.

You know, I think this was easier case to make when we were U.S.

was more concerned about the Middle East.

We had these fears of terrorism that, you know, Israel's an ally in terms of dealing with the terrorist threat.

But I think that's partly why it's harder to get support now, because, you

You know, most Americans, I don't think, now think about terrorism in the same way.

You know, I think also there is, you know, in terms of we consider Iran to be one of our top enemies, which I think makes sense.

Clearly, Israel is critical in terms of keeping those guys in check.

Yeah, I think that's a valid point.

I mean, certainly you hear a lot of that coming out and not just Vietnam, but also Watergate reinforces this.