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Mark Moyar

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

They start to get their act together in 1962.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

President Kennedy puts a lot of aid there.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

Things are going pretty well in 1963.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And then all of a sudden, you have what we call the Buddhist crisis, which is a hugely complicated and convoluted story where supposedly some Buddhists in the population were dissatisfied with the government.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And this was all really ginned up.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And we know, in fact, the communists were helping

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

give the propaganda behind this, but they duped some of the American press into believing them.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so ultimately, the US government supports a coup to overthrow President Diem in 1963.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And to me, that is a watershed moment in the war because the war effort suddenly goes off a cliff.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

Now, a lot of historians have overlooked some of this, but I think it's quite clear.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

We now know from North Vietnamese sources, this is a huge moment.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

So the South Vietnamese government goes into a tailspin

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And then we have Lyndon Johnson come in.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

Kennedy's assassinated just a few weeks after President Diem.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And Lyndon Johnson in 1964 is focusing on getting reelected in the 64 election.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

So everything to him has to be looked at that lens.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so you get to the Tonkin Gulf incidents of August in 1964.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

What happens is that a couple of American destroyers are out on the high seas and the North Vietnamese attack them.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

And President Johnson then is confronted with decision what to do.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong โ€” Historian Mark Moyar

You know, Johnson doesn't want this in the newspaper.