Mark Yagnon

If I can just come in and make this majestic city within this country that I love and cherish.

Right.

All the people that exist within this country and the powers be within this country that haven't done that yet.

Right.

Now you're potentially threatening that power.

100%.

Because if I'm a person that's living there, I'm going, well, why the fuck haven't Joe done this?

So do you think that you had people that were working against?

Oh yeah, it was very clear.

And the goal was attainable?

More than attainable.

Right, because the outside perspective, I'm sure you were probably having to defend nonstop.

That's an interesting thing, because the knee-jerk reflexive reaction is that, guys, this is what I want to do.

I want to do good in the world.

We could do this.

but the more you keep saying it, then they start looking at you like, wait, how are you involved in this corruption?

This is a lighting project.

Put that more on Europe than us.

I've been doing that for a minute.

But they didn't get it.