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Mark Zandi

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524 total appearances

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Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

you know, wages are up too, earnings are up too, but even there, you know, there's a reason for concern.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

Wage growth is slowing, right?

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

I mean, if you look at employment cost index, which is the best measure of wages for lots of different reasons, average hourly earnings, another measure,

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

The Atlanta Fed wage tracker, they're all showing deceleration in wage growth.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

And aggregate wage growth now is about 3% to 3.5%.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

So if inflation goes 3.5% to 4%, that means people's real wages after inflation are now going to start to decline.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

And I think at that point, people become really upset and nervous.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

It makes them very upset if their wages are falling relative to inflation.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

And I think that's probably dead ahead here over the next six months or so.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

Yeah, it goes back to that firewall.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

I think it's layoffs.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

I mean, our business is going to start laying off workers in the context of all the things that we are going through and what we just discussed.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

And there's different measures of layoffs.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

The one that economists tend to use is unemployment insurance claims.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

That's a bit vexed in the current context because changes in eligibility rules have made getting UI less attractive and

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

The layoffs are occurring in industries where people are generally paid more, you know, technology and financial services.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

And so they don't want to bother with applying for UI because, you know, there's a lot of – you have to do things to get the UI.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

You have to prove that you're looking for work and so forth and so on.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

So if the amount you get from UI is not consequential enough, you're just not going to do it.

Prof G Markets
The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi

And then the gig economy is also playing a role.