The “Ceasefire” Won’t Save The Economy — ft. Mark Zandi
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What does the ceasefire in Iran mean for the U.S. economy?
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Welcome to Prof G Markets. Scott is off for spring break, but he will be back next week. In the meantime, we have a big episode to share with you today with one of our favorite Prof G Markets guests. So let's get right into it. President Trump issued an unprecedented threat against Iran on Truth Social Tuesday, warning that a whole civilization will die tonight. Hours later, he announced a two-week ceasefire. As part of the agreement, Iran said it would reopen the Strait of Hormuz, but would impose a fee of $2 million per ship to help fund its reconstruction efforts. The market's reaction was immediate. Brent crude fell below $100 a barrel. S&P futures jumped, signaling a sigh of relief. And on Wednesday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth declared, quote, decisive military victory over Iran.
How is the market reacting to geopolitical tensions?
But General Dan Kaine said the U.S. is ready to resume attacks if the ceasefire falls apart. Meanwhile, Israel continued its Hezbollah strikes, and the Strait of Hormuz remains jammed. So the situation is not resolved yet. and the economic impact is now coming into focus once again. The conflict is expected to push inflation higher, with Bank of America projecting the Fed's preferred measure, PCE, could approach 4% this quarter. So for investors, the big question is, how do you navigate this kind of uncertainty? Here to help us answer these questions, we are joined by the chief economist at Moody's Analytics, Mark Zandi. Mark, good to have you on the program. So, at the beginning of the week, the question was, are we going to bomb Iran?
Are we going to nuke Iran? Was actually a question that a lot of people were asking. The answer was no. But I think the question becomes now, have things changed? Because of the fact that we made this threat, now we have this ceasefire, which is Kind of a ceasefire. Not really. We can get into the details. But I guess, how has this adjusted your views of what's going to happen in the markets and perhaps in the economy in the U.S.?
Feels pretty close to script, more or less. You know, the president has gone down this path in other ways. And when push comes to shove, when markets start to react, when stock prices are down, when interest rates are up, In this case, when oil prices are up, he figures out a way to pivot, to stand down and to declare victory and hopefully move on. And, you know, this go-around, that's been more difficult than, you know, with other similar events. Greenland comes to mind most recently. This one's been more difficult just because of the Iranians' leverage over the Kurds. over the straight. But nonetheless, that feels like where we're headed here. And that's kind of sort of what I think markets have been anticipating.
You know, if you look at stock prices, for example, as a benchmark, you know, even at the worst of the angst around what was going on in the Middle East, they were down on the S&P 5 to 10 percent. So not even a you know, typical correction. So I think investors were expecting the president to do something like this. And in fact, that's now what he's done. Now, clearly more script to be written here. We'll have to see how this plays out. You know, it's hard to imagine that it's all going to go forward without any difficulty. It feels like there's more problems dead ahead, but we'll see. But this so far feels kind of sort of what investors have expected. It's close to, as I said, it's pretty much sticking to script.
I mean, one thing that has changed from before, I mean, I would argue that once you threaten nuclear warfare, the whole world has changed for various reasons that maybe we can't see them. But one thing that is a legitimate material change that has happened as a result of these, I guess, negotiations is that now Iran is charging $2 million for every ship that passes through the Strait of Hormuz. And they have said in the agreement that they have full sovereignty over
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Chapters
7 chapters
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What does the ceasefire in Iran mean for the U.S. economy?
0:03–1:02
2
How is the market reacting to geopolitical tensions?
1:02–5:30
3
What are the inflation forecasts related to the current conflict?
5:30–6:02
4
How might the ceasefire affect investor strategies?
6:02–9:12
5
What are the potential long-term effects of the ceasefire on the economy?
9:12–17:27
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How will rising oil prices impact inflation and consumer costs?
17:27–29:59
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What are the implications of the Fed's interest rate decisions?
29:59–48:45
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