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Martin Bell

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Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

Ultimately, we decided to plead Mr. Prokopi out on what's called a cooperation agreement. A cooperation agreement usually means that you are agreeing to testify against other people in exchange for lenience, or at least the hope of lenience. You can imagine with these cooperation agreements, we like to work our way up criminal organizations, not down. Mr. Prokopi didn't really have...

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

people to point upwards at. But he did have information that would help us secure a number of other dinosaur fossils, including information that a number of his sketchier friends in Florida were holding onto dinosaur fossils for him. We eventually recovered those fossils.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

people to point upwards at. But he did have information that would help us secure a number of other dinosaur fossils, including information that a number of his sketchier friends in Florida were holding onto dinosaur fossils for him. We eventually recovered those fossils.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

people to point upwards at. But he did have information that would help us secure a number of other dinosaur fossils, including information that a number of his sketchier friends in Florida were holding onto dinosaur fossils for him. We eventually recovered those fossils.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

And so at the end of the day, we had more than two dozen fossils or fossil pieces, including three Tyrannosauruses, an Ankylosaurus, that one with the armor on its back, that kind of looks like the Barclay Center. Some over-raptors, some gallimimuses, and some eggs here and there. Just an array of different types of fossils.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

And so at the end of the day, we had more than two dozen fossils or fossil pieces, including three Tyrannosauruses, an Ankylosaurus, that one with the armor on its back, that kind of looks like the Barclay Center. Some over-raptors, some gallimimuses, and some eggs here and there. Just an array of different types of fossils.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

And so at the end of the day, we had more than two dozen fossils or fossil pieces, including three Tyrannosauruses, an Ankylosaurus, that one with the armor on its back, that kind of looks like the Barclay Center. Some over-raptors, some gallimimuses, and some eggs here and there. Just an array of different types of fossils.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

We wind up having Mr. Prokopi plead guilty pursuant to a cooperation agreement, it's sort of an interesting thing because when you've got a first-time offender in a white-collar case, you usually expect that if that person pleads guilty to a cooperation agreement and has done what cooperation we ask of them, they're probably not going to go to jail.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

We wind up having Mr. Prokopi plead guilty pursuant to a cooperation agreement, it's sort of an interesting thing because when you've got a first-time offender in a white-collar case, you usually expect that if that person pleads guilty to a cooperation agreement and has done what cooperation we ask of them, they're probably not going to go to jail.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

We wind up having Mr. Prokopi plead guilty pursuant to a cooperation agreement, it's sort of an interesting thing because when you've got a first-time offender in a white-collar case, you usually expect that if that person pleads guilty to a cooperation agreement and has done what cooperation we ask of them, they're probably not going to go to jail.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

The sentence is supposed to, among other things, reflect the seriousness of the offense. There's no real blueprint for what a dinosaur cooperator gets. And our judge struggled mightily with what to do here. We were not arguing for any particular sentence that was in line with the office's policy at the time.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

The sentence is supposed to, among other things, reflect the seriousness of the offense. There's no real blueprint for what a dinosaur cooperator gets. And our judge struggled mightily with what to do here. We were not arguing for any particular sentence that was in line with the office's policy at the time.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

The sentence is supposed to, among other things, reflect the seriousness of the offense. There's no real blueprint for what a dinosaur cooperator gets. And our judge struggled mightily with what to do here. We were not arguing for any particular sentence that was in line with the office's policy at the time.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

But I do think that everything in my body English was suggesting that this guy shouldn't get time.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

But I do think that everything in my body English was suggesting that this guy shouldn't get time.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

But I do think that everything in my body English was suggesting that this guy shouldn't get time.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

So you don't have that same way. Right. So what do you compare him? But it's not necessarily a victimless crime.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

So you don't have that same way. Right. So what do you compare him? But it's not necessarily a victimless crime.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

So you don't have that same way. Right. So what do you compare him? But it's not necessarily a victimless crime.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Jaw & Order: The Case of the Stolen Dinosaur Bones (and Nicolas Cage)

Mongolia. Mongolia is the victim. The Mongolia officials we dealt with from the lead paleontologists to folks involved with the Mongolian embassy, they felt this very, very strongly. Mongolia is not an incredibly wealthy country. And I think that there is a certain underdog mentality that attaches to that. And they're being kicked in a way that they saw as being worthy of meaningful punishment.