Martin Robb

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332 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 1 Jul

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Careful Thinking · Disability, dependency, and care - with Eva Feder Kittay · 1 Jul 2026 podcast

And I w I wanted to come on to ask you about your choice of the term dependency worker.

And and although although you write in the book that I do not want to deny important differences between paid and unpaid dependency work, in at least one place you do use the term familial dependency worker.

And of course that's the paradox in your book's title that care can be both love and at the same time labour.

But I wonder if you've ever received any pushback on the idea that caregiving undertaken out of love, for example, by a mother or a father, is still work and that the caregiver in those circumstances should be seen as a worker?

I shouldn't.

Yeah.

Yeah, you mentioned fathers, Eva, and and given my own research interest in fatherhood, I was particularly interested in what you write in Love's Labour about gender and care, particularly within families.

And you s you write care of children and the raising of children is not exclusively the work of mothers.

I've witnessed firsthand how competent a father can be in the daily hands-on care of a dependent child, and I'm convinced there is nothing inherently gendered about the work of care.

Care.

Nonetheless, to ignore the fact that most of the care of children is done by mothers and call this work for caring parenting rather than mothering is a distortion that serves women poorly.

And elsewhere in the book you write that while this labour is largely gendered it need not be, this book is in part about a more equitable distribution of dependency work.

I wonder in the quarter of a century since the book was published,

You know, we've we've seen evidence of uh more men taking on caring w roles within families, for example.

I wonder if you're now more optimistic about the possibilities for degendering dependency work?

A long a long, slow revolution, perhaps.

Yeah.

Yeah, indeed.

Now one of the chapters in In Love's Labour opens with an anecdote from your childhood.

You write, My mother has been serving us dinner.

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