Marty Baron

You have capital to experiment and innovate.

I'd like to see a really good board that's truly independent.

I think if it were independent, they can make a very convincing argument to many of the subscribers who have left the post that they're now on a new course and that they should come back.

And I think they would by the hundreds of thousands because they want the kind of work the Washington Post is known for doing.

And so I would love to see something like that.

And then, of course, it would have to be a fundamentally digital organization.

That's the way things are these days.

That's the way people live their lives and get their information.

They would have to experiment in all sorts of ways with podcasts like this one, give you a little bit of competition.

You could use it.

And then, you know, and short form video as well.

So I think that's clearly the way that a lot of people are getting information and they would have to think in those terms.

And so I would like to see that.

I mean, I think that the post is capable of a lot of innovation.

I think it demonstrated that in the past, but they still need to be true to their mission, true to their core principles.

You cannot give up your core principles and be successful.

So that's not that good.

They're killing it.

They announced that they're eliminating that podcast, by the way.

Okay.