Marty Baron

And I just ended up there because I was approached about taking on the editorship of the Washington Post, which was a surprise to me. So I've always seen Washington as a bit of a bubble. And I think it is. And I think, look, we did work when I was at the Post, we did work to increase the diversity and respects other than demographic. And that was we tried to hire more military veterans.

We thought that was important. The country had been at war for so many years, and yet we had very few military veterans in our newsroom. We needed more. We hired people who came from evangelical Christian colleges. I thought that was really important, given the importance of religion in this country and particularly evangelicalism in this country.

We thought that was important. The country had been at war for so many years, and yet we had very few military veterans in our newsroom. We needed more. We hired people who came from evangelical Christian colleges. I thought that was really important, given the importance of religion in this country and particularly evangelicalism in this country.

We thought that was important. The country had been at war for so many years, and yet we had very few military veterans in our newsroom. We needed more. We hired people who came from evangelical Christian colleges. I thought that was really important, given the importance of religion in this country and particularly evangelicalism in this country.

And to try to get more people from working class backgrounds as well. We need to do more of that. There's no question. I think there are a lot of people in the newsroom who don't understand the struggles and lives of ordinary people in the middle of the country. And we need to work harder at that. There's no question about that.

And to try to get more people from working class backgrounds as well. We need to do more of that. There's no question. I think there are a lot of people in the newsroom who don't understand the struggles and lives of ordinary people in the middle of the country. And we need to work harder at that. There's no question about that.

And to try to get more people from working class backgrounds as well. We need to do more of that. There's no question. I think there are a lot of people in the newsroom who don't understand the struggles and lives of ordinary people in the middle of the country. And we need to work harder at that. There's no question about that.

Well, I agree with you on that. I think, look, this was evident prior to Trump being elected. People have asked me what our failures were prior to Trump being elected. And I always say it wasn't the coverage of the campaign. It was what occurred prior to that, years prior to that, is that we didn't understand the country well enough. We just did not understand people's

Well, I agree with you on that. I think, look, this was evident prior to Trump being elected. People have asked me what our failures were prior to Trump being elected. And I always say it wasn't the coverage of the campaign. It was what occurred prior to that, years prior to that, is that we didn't understand the country well enough. We just did not understand people's

Well, I agree with you on that. I think, look, this was evident prior to Trump being elected. People have asked me what our failures were prior to Trump being elected. And I always say it wasn't the coverage of the campaign. It was what occurred prior to that, years prior to that, is that we didn't understand the country well enough. We just did not understand people's

struggles, their expectations, their aspirations, and we needed to do that better. And there's no question that, look, everybody, people talk about their life experiences these days, but everybody's life experiences, by definition, narrow. It's just them. Our job as journalists is to get outside of our life experience and understand the life, the experiences of other people.

struggles, their expectations, their aspirations, and we needed to do that better. And there's no question that, look, everybody, people talk about their life experiences these days, but everybody's life experiences, by definition, narrow. It's just them. Our job as journalists is to get outside of our life experience and understand the life, the experiences of other people.

struggles, their expectations, their aspirations, and we needed to do that better. And there's no question that, look, everybody, people talk about their life experiences these days, but everybody's life experiences, by definition, narrow. It's just them. Our job as journalists is to get outside of our life experience and understand the life, the experiences of other people.

And we need more people in our newsrooms who come from a variety of different backgrounds. And I think we should get to work doing that.

And we need more people in our newsrooms who come from a variety of different backgrounds. And I think we should get to work doing that.

And we need more people in our newsrooms who come from a variety of different backgrounds. And I think we should get to work doing that.

That's a very interesting data point, that research that you did. And I think it does highlight just how sorely disconnected we are from so much of what is happening in the country. And I think that's something that definitely needs to be corrected and corrected quickly. It's caused for a lot of self-reflection on the part of all of us in the media.

That's a very interesting data point, that research that you did. And I think it does highlight just how sorely disconnected we are from so much of what is happening in the country. And I think that's something that definitely needs to be corrected and corrected quickly. It's caused for a lot of self-reflection on the part of all of us in the media.

That's a very interesting data point, that research that you did. And I think it does highlight just how sorely disconnected we are from so much of what is happening in the country. And I think that's something that definitely needs to be corrected and corrected quickly. It's caused for a lot of self-reflection on the part of all of us in the media.

And we need to make sure that that doesn't continue.