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The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I mean, look, you may remember that Trump talked about doubling, tripling, quadrupling the postal rates for the delivery of Amazon packages, that sort of thing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

It was numbers pulled out of thin air, of course.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

He hadn't done a study of any sort and said that the Post was just a lobbying organization for Jeff Bezos, that it was a tax dodge, all this nonsense, none of it true, not even close to true.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And then toward the end of his administration, Trump's administration, he actually interfered to make sure that a big cloud computing contract with the Defense Department, $10 billion, did not go to Amazon.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And it did not go to Amazon.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And then there was a lot of litigation around it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And it was rebid and all this sort of stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

But very complicated.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

But Bezos stood up to that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

In fact, I mean, people forget.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I mean, Bezos and Amazon, they filed a lawsuit against the Defense Department for the way that it awarded that contract.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And they called upon Trump to actually be deposed.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

to be deposed.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And they said that the interference by Trump was because of his animosity toward Bezos because of his ownership of the Washington Post.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I thought that was all good.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I admired him for doing that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I admired the support that he gave me.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I admired the support that he gave my colleagues.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

I admired his support for the Post and its mission and for the press generally.

The Bulwark Podcast
Marty Baron: Behind the Washington Post’s Demise

And so what I did is I told it like it was.