Mary Holland

And so it was very, very gratifying.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I mean, they genuinely really regretted being here because they know that we support them and that we are supporting the work that they're doing.

And so there's a relationship there.

I really want to talk about, so Gavin DeBecker just wrote a book and published it and gave free copies to everybody at this conference.

That's a thousand copies.

And it's an amazing book called Forbidden Facts, Unwanted Truth.

And

Literally, he talks about the history of the Institute of Medicine that people would imagine is a government agency.

It's actually not.

It's now called the National Academy of Medicine.

But it's basically a hired gun.

It's a gun for hire, often hired by the government.

And so he walks us through the lies that they told around asbestos and talc, around Asian orange in the Vietnam War, around other –

Industrial products where, you know, the institute sides with the industry or with the government.

And then he brings us up to autism and he walks us through the literally tragic comic documentation of transcripts from meetings that were held around what were they going to do around thimerosal.

And he says, you know, the first thing on the first day is we're never going to say that that vaccines cause autism.

We're never going to change the childhood vaccine schedule.

All we're going to do is a bunch of scientists.

Allegedly, we're just going to wordsmith so that we can craft a narrative that will confuse people.