Mary Roach

And in fact, they did.

They made a penis camera and they put it in and the woman was like having sex with this phallus with a light source and a camera.

And I was like, holy crap, that's my next book, Sex Research.

It's like, how delightfully awkward is that to...

Yeah.

You know, bring people into a laboratory setting and have them do sexual things and you're the researcher in your white coat.

And I just thought that scene is very Mary Roach.

Got to do a book about that.

Just science that you don't really expect.

And I think also I'm drawn to the human body just because it is this kind of weird foreign planet.

You know, when you get beyond, you know, we walk around mostly as minds, thinking of ourselves as, you know, this personality and this mind.

But we're in this big bag of meat and bones and stuff and all this weird crap's going on.

And that's kind of cool.

You know, it's almost like travel.

I used to love to do a lot of travel for my reporting, and I at some point realized that the human body is kind of a foreign planet that is fun to play around on.

Well, it was amazing to me.

When you think about...

the act of sex, even independent from fertility, just sex.

This is a biological, physiological thing, and yet...

Even up through the mid-1900s, nobody was – you wouldn't find it in a textbook, like a classic physiology textbook.