Mary Roach

Finally, I called Bob Bartlett.

I'm like, what's the deal?

He's like, you know what?

It's my lab.

You just come here and we'll let you in.

So I go there and I said, what the heck happened?

And he said, oh, the public affairs people were really concerned that you're an animal rights fanatic.

Anyway, so there's a lot of wariness and nervousness.

And I get that.

People are worried about lawsuits.

They're worried about social media.

They're worried about everything.

It's a time of being worried.

So I think that being allowed to go, I mean, I went to Chengdu, China, because I couldn't go to United Therapeutics or eGenesis, the two companies here that are creating pigs that have

more acceptable organs to humans.

So yeah, I mean, thank you to both of them because I had a great time in Chengdu, but that can be very frustrating and I don't blame them.

Like as my agent said, Mary, can you blame them?

I mean, who wants Mary Roach sort of mucking around and who knows what she's going to say, who knows what she's going to do, you know?

Oh, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.