Matan Grinberg
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first heard Jun 2026
last heard 13 Jun
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Like, for example, maybe our best salesperson, the way we use them best is not by having them use tokens, but by going and meeting people face to face.
That's an obvious example because they don't write code in the first place.
But I think similarly, maybe there are some engineers who they actually do their best work by spending time with users, spending time with our customers, maybe doing some data analysis.
That's not very token expensive, but then they're going to be others who are delegating to dozens of droids in parallel, working on a ton of different crazy features and refactors and migrations.
But I don't think it's going to be a consistent number across the board.
In fact, I would argue that if your org has
a standard number where it's like, we want every engineer to be at this percent of their salary and token use, you're probably painting with way too wide a brush.
Probably 80% to 90%.
It's typically the planning that really needs the frontier models.
Well, it depends because that 10% to 20% could be the most important tokens.
10% to 20% of the tokens, but those are really, really important because it's kind of decision-making tokens, perhaps.
Sure.
But it's very similar to how we structure human orgs.
Oftentimes, leadership makes very key decisions that determine the fate of the company, and they don't spend the most hours.
If you look at the human hours of a company, most human hours are not spent on making the decisions.
They're on gathering data or implementing things, but then there's a select few hours where it's like,
here is where we're going to make this irreversible decision on the strategy.
And those people that make those decisions are also typically paid a lot.
And that's what's happening already.
It's like the frontier models are sometimes they're getting more expensive or you're using the ultra high reasoning or this type of thing.
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