Matias De Stefano
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard May 2025
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So when all the attention is about how to heal the disease... you're just stuck in the energy again and again in the same trauma, in the same conflict. Because all your attention and your heels are just thinking about the disease.
Yeah, it's like, I'm feeling this. I have to be here with the disease. But most of the people, instead of asking the disease, why am I here? They try to avoid the disease, trying to heal it and saying, I have to be fine. I have to heal. I remember my grandmother died because of cancer and we were at the hospital and I said to her, there are two ways to walk this path. One is very long.
but it might get you to where you're supposed to. The other one is short, but it will take you where you don't want to go. So the short one was let's try chemo and trust the doctors, of course, something that can heal you too. But of course, it's going to kill more cells than actually heal them. The other one is to walk the path. Where are you? Where have you been? Where are you going to?
Do you actually want to heal? So you have to face why you have this disease. So all of that is longer, of course, but it might get you to the real point. And I remember she looked at me and said, and she said, so what would be the first thing to do? And I said, well, you have to forgive my grandfather, your husband. He was dead many years ago. And you have to speak with him.
And she said, let's go for the short one. Yeah, she died, of course. But yeah, she didn't want to face the whole situation.
Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. And forgive, forgive is to give away. So that's the origin of forgiveness. Forgiveness is the ability to give something that doesn't belong to you. So I forgive you is actually, I'm not expecting anything and I give you what you have gave me back. So that's the concept of it. So I don't have the weight anymore of something that doesn't belong to me.
You're giving it away. You're giving it back. So you are taking away the weight that you had in that chakra. So that's why forgiveness is not about the other person. It's always about yourself. So that's why I said the first thing is to release a weight that doesn't belong to you. in order to focus just on you. So that's why you have to forgive first.
So otherwise, you're not concentrating yourself. You're just giving energy to someone else. That's why you have to forgive everyone before you can do the work with yourself.
Well, forgiveness is one of the first ones. The next one, I believe, is to make the map on why did you accept all those weights. So what are the cycles that you've been repeating that you accumulated that weight in you? That takes a long time because it means recognition, understanding, talking about it, having conversations even with people that...
are not there but you can speak with someone like if that person was there so it's part of the recognition of where is the map where does the map leads me in my mind so to understand all the moments that you had that disease that same disease that now is physical but you had it before emotionally so where did i feel this before
Yeah. That's the second thing that someone has to do. Yeah, of course. And the third one would be towards the future. Where am I heading because of that? What are my intentions? Are mine or are of those people, of those situations? Where am I going? And that's the question of the heels. Like, where am I standing and where am I going to put myself?
The heal, because health is about where I'm going and how the energy is moving. If I'm not moving, if I'm still shocked by what happened, I'm not going to heal. The next question is where am I going to put my heal? in the next steps. Where am I heading to? What's my purpose? And so on.
It's basically that. Like, emotion is energy. I say energy in motion. It's a constant motion of energy. So what is energy? Everything. We are energy. We are packages of data in shape of energy. Electrons spinning around a proton, energy. So what are you? Chemical elements that are atoms, that is atomic energy packaged in a different way. We have that power within us.
that becomes emotions organically become emotions when we are not using it correctly so when we don't know how to use the machine correctly that energy and we call that emotion so in order to heal a machine you need to correct the emotion and that makes you think about what is my emotion Where am I moving?
Am I moving or I'm just thinking that I'm moving, but actually I'm like a hamster in the same wheel spinning and running, but in the same position all the time.
Yeah, the universe is eternal.
So plenty of time.
I think it's important to understand that when someone dies, their energy expands. So that expansion goes to different levels. There's one aspect of that expansion that goes to the fourth dimension and the fifth dimension that expands into different dimensions. But other aspects of you expands in the third dimension. Meaning... Insects will eat from you. That will feed birds and roots.
That will give power to flowers and seeds. That will create honey for beehives and so on. So you expand in different dimensions. You don't only expand in the fourth or heaven, but you're also expanding to this one. So that means that the person that just died, one aspect...
expands very fast to the fourth dimension, which is that moment when you see your whole life and the tunnel and the whole thing. But then you go to the fifth dimension, which is information, and you start to expand to other levels. But the physical aspect of you, it takes months until it expands into nature.
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