Matt Amdur

And I think it was, uh, it was beginning to threaten their kind of pipeline of young folks has, uh,

And I think it was, uh, it was beginning to threaten their kind of pipeline of young folks has, uh,

chris do you know if if that's i mean that's a leadership principle right is like and has that leadership principle kind of have people been like hey is this part of striving to be earth's best employer because not really feeling that one here yeah that one doesn't come up as much in conversation uh almost ever i don't think in all my performance reviews i've ever ticked that box for for anybody just because i just don't it's kind of hard to apply um

chris do you know if if that's i mean that's a leadership principle right is like and has that leadership principle kind of have people been like hey is this part of striving to be earth's best employer because not really feeling that one here yeah that one doesn't come up as much in conversation uh almost ever i don't think in all my performance reviews i've ever ticked that box for for anybody just because i just don't it's kind of hard to apply um

Are you tempted to try? Because it'd be like, no, that's not a leadership. We put that there for the New York Times. That's not an actual leadership principle.

Are you tempted to try? Because it'd be like, no, that's not a leadership. We put that there for the New York Times. That's not an actual leadership principle.

Okay, so another question on this. First of all, it's really interesting to hear kind of from the inside about how the – I mean, this is obviously not popular, and this is very uprooting to people's lives, I'm sure. One of the comments he said is that we want to be like a startup again. And speaking as a startup, I don't know.

Okay, so another question on this. First of all, it's really interesting to hear kind of from the inside about how the – I mean, this is obviously not popular, and this is very uprooting to people's lives, I'm sure. One of the comments he said is that we want to be like a startup again. And speaking as a startup, I don't know.

The startups these days are kind of taking advantage of the fact that you larger companies have these dumbass RTO mandates. And I don't think Oxide is the only startup that is benefiting from some extraordinary people who are wondering what's next because they are leaving these established companies. Are the startups out there... I mean, it feels to me like startups are remote increasingly.

The startups these days are kind of taking advantage of the fact that you larger companies have these dumbass RTO mandates. And I don't think Oxide is the only startup that is benefiting from some extraordinary people who are wondering what's next because they are leaving these established companies. Are the startups out there... I mean, it feels to me like startups are remote increasingly.

I mean, Adam, you were broadly pretty remote, right?

I mean, Adam, you were broadly pretty remote, right?

more the default answer whereas in person was the default answer previously yeah i think so too so and chris inside because i know that that historically when some of these mandates came down there were some exceptions that people were able to get and that the reality was the folks that needed the exceptions were always able to get them is that what's the thinking on whether that's going to continue or are they are they trying to crack down on some of those exceptions

more the default answer whereas in person was the default answer previously yeah i think so too so and chris inside because i know that that historically when some of these mandates came down there were some exceptions that people were able to get and that the reality was the folks that needed the exceptions were always able to get them is that what's the thinking on whether that's going to continue or are they are they trying to crack down on some of those exceptions

What's the answer to that out of curiosity? the answer to why can't we be remote? Yes. I mean, just like when you try to get it to ground, can we just talk about some of this, the magical collaboration that only happens in person? Can we just get to some concrete examples of that? Is that where, I mean, why are we even asking this? Of course, like,

What's the answer to that out of curiosity? the answer to why can't we be remote? Yes. I mean, just like when you try to get it to ground, can we just talk about some of this, the magical collaboration that only happens in person? Can we just get to some concrete examples of that? Is that where, I mean, why are we even asking this? Of course, like,

Honestly, no, that would have been like, no, I was not on any, I was not on IRC jabber. I was on, Um, when we were working remote, it was email. I mean, it was just like, if you want to go like really get tears in your eyes and, and you know, uh, the, uh, it was email. Yeah. Um, what was the way we, and we used email differently than it's used now. Totally. Totally.

Honestly, no, that would have been like, no, I was not on any, I was not on IRC jabber. I was on, Um, when we were working remote, it was email. I mean, it was just like, if you want to go like really get tears in your eyes and, and you know, uh, the, uh, it was email. Yeah. Um, what was the way we, and we used email differently than it's used now. Totally. Totally.

Uh, and you were much more current on email. There's a lot of email back and forth. So that, but it, but email was very important. And I think that, and obviously, someone in the chat is saying, like, email. Sorry, not the thing that I, the thing that I have to put a confirmation code into in order to log into the website.

Uh, and you were much more current on email. There's a lot of email back and forth. So that, but it, but email was very important. And I think that, and obviously, someone in the chat is saying, like, email. Sorry, not the thing that I, the thing that I have to put a confirmation code into in order to log into the website.