Matt Amdur

I don't know they're in danger of perishing, but I do think that this approach, this kind of coercion approach is going to undermine trust to the degree that I don't, I don't know that it's going to work. I think it's going to backfire.

I don't know they're in danger of perishing, but I do think that this approach, this kind of coercion approach is going to undermine trust to the degree that I don't, I don't know that it's going to work. I think it's going to backfire.

That's a very concise way of putting it.

That's a very concise way of putting it.

that offices, like cities, that are not, because there are, just like, Chris, it's an interesting analog, because the, you know, like cities, you know, everyone kind of spent a bunch of time trying to flee cities, but actually young people are attracted to cities for a lot of the reasons that you're attracted to something that's got, you know, hustle to it, and that's got verve to it, and Z-ball and chariot races.

that offices, like cities, that are not, because there are, just like, Chris, it's an interesting analog, because the, you know, like cities, you know, everyone kind of spent a bunch of time trying to flee cities, but actually young people are attracted to cities for a lot of the reasons that you're attracted to something that's got, you know, hustle to it, and that's got verve to it, and Z-ball and chariot races.

Yeah, well put. And I think it is going to really depend on what you're doing. And there will be some companies that... There's some companies where dress codes make sense, right? I mean, it's like... I mean, for any company Matt's at.

Yeah, well put. And I think it is going to really depend on what you're doing. And there will be some companies that... There's some companies where dress codes make sense, right? I mean, it's like... I mean, for any company Matt's at.

Yeah, if you wouldn't mind, if you would please reflect on that. I assume that we're going to have at least some future episode only on Dress Codes featuring Matt. I'm envisioning Fashion Plate Matt, where I can put different outfits on Matt.

Yeah, if you wouldn't mind, if you would please reflect on that. I assume that we're going to have at least some future episode only on Dress Codes featuring Matt. I'm envisioning Fashion Plate Matt, where I can put different outfits on Matt.

Okay. Sorry. Here in the Bay Area, getting your catalytic converter stolen, it's like the sun rising. I had forgotten this. Was there a catalytic converter?

Okay. Sorry. Here in the Bay Area, getting your catalytic converter stolen, it's like the sun rising. I had forgotten this. Was there a catalytic converter?

Those thieves were innovators.

Those thieves were innovators.

It was very bleak. Yes. Well, and I think that, I mean, I would like to say that those thieves really were innovators. And I would like to believe that somewhere there's another podcast going on with catalytic converter thieves reminiscing about Sun Microsystems back in the day.

It was very bleak. Yes. Well, and I think that, I mean, I would like to say that those thieves really were innovators. And I would like to believe that somewhere there's another podcast going on with catalytic converter thieves reminiscing about Sun Microsystems back in the day.

It was just like this flightless bird where you could just go, you had all the time all day to just, you know, put it up on jacks, really do it right, you know. And back in the day, there was real attention to the craft.

It was just like this flightless bird where you could just go, you had all the time all day to just, you know, put it up on jacks, really do it right, you know. And back in the day, there was real attention to the craft.

Well, this has been, I don't know if this has been cathartic, uplifting. I don't know where we land on this. This has been, certainly I think, I would say that for those folks that are going through this, I definitely, heart goes out to folks who have really, for whom this is really a challenge for their lives. And I think that this too shall pass in that regard.

Well, this has been, I don't know if this has been cathartic, uplifting. I don't know where we land on this. This has been, certainly I think, I would say that for those folks that are going through this, I definitely, heart goes out to folks who have really, for whom this is really a challenge for their lives. And I think that this too shall pass in that regard.