Matt Bernstein

I think that sentiment really shines through in this next thing I clipped.

Justin starts doing something really interesting, which is he plays heavily into the idea that he was just following orders.

Despite everything we know, right, about how much power these young men were given, like they were selecting grants to be terminated.

They say a lot of like, I was just making lists of grants to be approved by someone else, to be looked at by someone else, to be looked at someone else.

Like I was just a cog in the wheel.

But we know that that's not true.

He seems very uncomfortable with the idea that his decisions caused grants to be terminated and lives to be upended.

You spoiled my next clip, Crystal.

And it's so interesting, right?

Because he thought he was acting with impunity.

He was having fun.

He was probably high on his own supply as well as Elon's supply.

And what's interesting is that through this case and it becoming so public, what strikes me

is that these two young men who were making $150,000, which is a lot of money, but it's not Elon money.

It's not whoever Anthony Armstrong is.

It's not Anthony Armstrong money.

And it's interesting that they become the sacrificial lambs in this situation.

And, you know, they fully deserve it, but...

Right now, there are so many people who aren't being deposed, who live in this world where they are making these decisions that upend all of our lives.

Currently, I feel this way about every single billionaire.