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especially while they're supporting legislation that disenfranchises those very groups.

This part of her career, as I said up top, it makes the most sense to me because it's synonymous with so many of the conservative LGBT influencers I've covered on this podcast.

What's notable, though, to me is that despite the huge success of these figures, there has never actually been that much of a shift in the voting bases of the groups that they claim to represent.

Like more than 80% of Black voters and more than 80% of LGBTQ voters continue to vote Democrat as recently as the 2024 election, which is the same case that has been for decades and decades and decades.

So, you know, as much as people like Candace and a lot of the people that I've covered on this podcast love to like ascribe like momentum to what they're doing on behalf of like the minority groups that they belong to.

It is ultimately at the end of the day, mostly for like a heterosexual, cisgender, white male audience.

Yes.

Do you want to jump ahead to Turning Point USA?

Because I'm down if you're down.

I don't really often say those words in that order, but you know.

So naturally in 2017, amid allegations of racism at Turning Point USA, I can't imagine why Turning Point USA would end up being a racist workplace, but it's neither here nor there, to

Charlie Kirk hires Candace Owens to become the organization's director of urban engagement.

It does.

And it's interesting because at this point, Candace, who one of the very good things and one of the few good things that I would say about Candace Owens is that she is an incredible talent on camera.

But at this point, she's still not doing on camera work.

She is essentially like in the corporate ladder at Turning Point USA.

She works there for two years.

And while there, she really blossoms into a public figure.

She is recognized by Donald Trump.

who calls her a great thinker.